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Another Vietnam

Let's put a stop to this before we hit 58,000 dead Americans and over a million dead Iraqis ... or worse
In light of recent reports from Haditha [ "The Haditha Massacre"
 http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/053006J.shtml ], Memorial Day, and this comparison between the Iraq War and Vietnam [ http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/053006J.shtml ], Memorial Day, and this comparison between the Iraq War and Vietnam [ link to www.truthout.org ]:

If you woke up to the Washington Post on Aug 5, 1964, you would have read in big bold letters, "American Planes Hit North Vietnam After Second Attack on Our Destroyers; Move Taken to Halt New Aggression." We now know there was no second attack, just as we now know there are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

At the end of 1964, three years after the war had officially begun on Dec 11, 1961, 216 American soldiers were killed in Vietnam. At the end of 1965, that number rose to 1,926. Today in Washington DC there's a wall with over fifty eight thousand names on it. Perhaps there's a few names you know. A generation later, as of Feb 7th '05, almost 2 years into the current war, 1,448 American soldiers have been shipped out Bagdad in a box.

In the March of 1968, after weeks of their ranks being culled by maiming and death, Charlie Company entered the village of My Lai and massacred over 300 unarmed civilians including women, children, and the elderly. Recently a doctor told Dahr Jamail, one of the only unembedded American reporters in Iraq, that he had videotaped the testimony of a 16 year old girl who was trapped in her home in Fallujah for three days with the decaying bodies of her family members. "When the soldiers entered she was in her home with her father, mother, 12 year-old brother and two sisters. She watched the soldiers enter and shoot her mother and father directly, without saying anything." The girl and her brother hid behind a refrigerator as "they beat her two sisters, then shot them in the head," causing her brother to fly at them in a rage. He was shot dead.

The doctor's first hand assessment of the besieged city is "All I can say is that Fallujah is like it was struck by a tsunami. There weren't many families in there after the siege, but they had absolutely nothing. The suffering was beyond what you can imagine. When the Americans finally let us in people were fighting just for a blanket."

We are engaged in a war we cannot win. George Santayana once wrote, "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." With a looming economic disaster and the whole world against us, can this nation really survive another Vietnam?


Something needs to be done about this. Please see my post at  link to portland.indymedia.org
Forgot to mention 01.Jun.2006 09:49

Jody Paulson

The above came from a radio commentary I did a year ago, which can be heard at:  http://www.radio4all.net/proginfo.php?id=11225

Also relevent to the subject matter:
a powerful short Flash Movie about counter recruitment.

will be much larger 01.Jun.2006 15:00


Iraq is basically a large region where one cannot start to imagine all the dangers of the Politics, like Isreal's Occupation not just of Palistine, but also the Golan Hights which belong to Syria, then there are countries such as Iran, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Lybia, some real delicate Politics. As I remember, Saddam had the UN looking through his country, some of my friends were still here, Isreal was working with their cousins,the Palistians on withdrawl and peace, and the only issue with the Golan hights being given back to Syria were WATER RIGHTS, Isreal withdrew from Lebonnon, then Syria also withdrew from lebonnon within days of being asked to do so, which should be a Roll Model to the enire world, we seemed almost there. Then came Buch and Iraq.
This will cost much more than 58,000 american lives.
Atleast Vietnam did not spill over to much.

What is a "no fly zone" and how long have "we" been there? 01.Jun.2006 20:14

Donald Rumsfelds necktie

everyone seems to forget, USA Never left Iraq since Daddy Bushits oil grab 15 years ago. Everyone especially Cheney knew there was no WMD's because of intense surveilance and over flights.

Our kids are being killed and killing for Lies, again.
These dirtbags belong in jail as an example and lesson for future corrupt governments endangering America and destroying our once honorable reputation.

WE the People now are absolutely despised globally, and so is 1 other country, Israel.