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A tyrant is dead, long live THE tyrant

I am not a real believer in hanging, as I feel that it makes murderers out of decent human beings, and martyrs the tyrant, BUT...
As long as we are hanging tyrants, am I the only one who thinks maybe there might at least ONE more deserving?

tyrant or actor? 30.Dec.2006 07:27

look alike

So they murdered someone who looks like the former tyrant of Bagdad? Another mind controlled stooge bites the dust.

 http://www.vialls.com/iraq/vaudeville.html

I was wondering that myself. 30.Dec.2006 07:48

marco

a grainy black and white photo to assure the entire planet it was
in fact Hussein they killed? Or was the grainy and lack of color
and contrast, to coverup weak Adobe Photoshop signatures???

Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me one bit.

On a different related topic though... Why did we choose the path
of revenge? Ouch that hurts. The "xtians" are so out of control
they can't even hear their own leader's "sermon on the mount of olives."

And most especially when they're crucifying someone else's leader
out there?

I thought would have developed past that kind of stuff.

Oh well, I thought wrong. So yes, while we're running people
through meatgrinders and gallows, I say we either ship George
W. Bush out to Iraq to jump on IEDs and save some of his
soldiers lives, or perhaps place HIM on trial.

Oh, we're trying and failing at that?

Yeah, give it time.

The next real Nuremburg trials are going to have to be initiated
from somewhere else NOT in the continental Untied States. We've
deemed ourselves obsolete when you think about it really.

we can do better than this 30.Dec.2006 08:41

st

And who might that be? W? Why stop there? How about Cheney and Rummy? Or on a local level, the Schumachers? It seems as though some people here in Portland who have actively expressed their objections to that family's choice of business, wouldn't feel too bad if a member or members of that family faced a similar fate.

Wishing to put people to death for activities judged to be criminal according to human established criteria is often petty, vindictive, and not so constructive. There is no way that execution, as a response to Saddam's actions against fellow humans can, as punishment, equate the angst and torment he inflicted upon the people of the world.

Saddam would likely never ever have seen the day as the international threat to peace he once was, if Iraq had stopped short of hanging him. They could have locked him away for the rest of his life in exile where he would have posed no threat, as effectively happened in the case of Rudolf Hess by England in WWII.

Of course, one benefit, for those who can see it as such, of executing Saddam, is that no further expense need be made to feed, care, and guard he, who no longer really had the right to expect such regard for his being.

I would hope people would instead devote their thoughts to one day seeing Iraqi's decide to stop waging war against themselves, and join together in the common purpose of working to hasten the exit of the U.S. from their country.

yes, saddam was evil. yes, his execution changes not one damn thing. 30.Dec.2006 09:00

this thing here

for all it was worth, and the end of it all, it was just one more violent death of a man named hussein in one more violent day in iraq. i think about 60 iraqis have been killed by 3 car bombs this saturday in iraq... at this moment in iraq's history, are their deaths somehow less important, less tragic?...

The truth requires an incentive... 30.Dec.2006 09:48

Pravda or Consequences

Saddam is probably partying down with Ken Lay.

smell ya later 30.Dec.2006 09:51

Bardo

Yes but he had a great mustache and smelled of rose water.

Saddam Tried, Executed for Reasons Eerily Similar to Bush's Attack, Occupation 30.Dec.2006 13:44

Basalt

With Saddam's removal, the cause for further investigations of his crimes (alleged, actual, rumored, etc) whithers. The whore press will run off to other sensations and spectacles. The rest of Saddam's record will languish in the purgatory of allegations and un-closed retribution for crimes.

The conspiracy theory impulse suggests that with the rest of Saddam's career evading legal examination under trial, now that the defendant is dead, any others having something to hide or at least seeking to minimize the risk that something embarassing (or worse) comes out in further legal process have relief.

- - - -Recall bush the taller's invasion vendeta pressed to "get" Panama's Noriega, ensuring that he's put out of communications with the rest of the world. Noriega was one of bush the taller's agents and facilitators on the CIA payroll, but when he got out of hand, was getting the cold shoulder and posed a threat to reveal CIA crimes in/around the Central American killing fields, he had to be neutralized. Credit the surgical isolation of Noriega by incarceration rather than execution, to the characteristic finesse of bush the taller --in contrast to the clumsily wielded blunt instrument approach of his mouth-breathing spawn, bush the short.

So now the risk that Saddam might blurt out in court details about the support that the US bestowed when it "tilted" Iraq's way in the Iran-Iraq war are secure, or at worst, unsubtantiated by way of court testimony.

An interesting congruence follows from the matter which delivered the guilty verdict and sentence of hanging. Saddam was executed for having retaliated crudely, cruelly and collectively against men and boys of a town which bore the misfortune of being where an assasination threat against Sadam had been uncovered.

Of all the reasons that the runt has fumbled around with these grim past 5 years--since 9-11--for "getting" Saddam: WMD, regime change, bringing democracy to the nations, protecting American interests, "staying the course", et al, one rises from the ashes: "He tried to kill my daddy."

This is the only allegation or excuse for running the crimes of the invasion, and then the continuing occupation, that has a basis. From all fairly independent sources, there was a plan by Saddam to assassinate bush the taller.

By the above logic surrounding Saddam's charge, verdict and execution, the runt effectively avenged, unfolding an intolerable cesspool of manifold mass indiscriminqate slaughter, crashing the US economy and social fabric and a panorama of war crimes in the process, for the attempt on his "daddy"--he took out vengence, with maligned negligence as to anyone and anything in the way, in the cross fire, in order to even the score on that attempt. That attempt being the only criteria left standing for the invasion, occupation and manslaughter among all of the phony smoke rings that the runt has been blowing these 5 years.

By the logic that brought Saddam to terminal justice...well, if the shoe fits...

those deserving of execution 30.Dec.2006 13:50

the inquisition

There are many who deserve to die, and maybe we should rank order them and execute them in front of an international audience following trials in an international court.

Those who made wars of aggression that led to the death of millions should go first. Those who enforced "sanctions" that killed millions of innocents. Those who covered up research and continued to push tobacco, allowing millions to die. Those who knowingly destroyed infrastructure and the environment, causing millions to die.

And so on.

But, maybe we should cease to execute anyone until the most villainous among us are brought to justice.

Saddam Tried, Executed for Reasons Eerily Similar to Bush's Attack, Occupation 30.Dec.2006 15:51

Basalt

With Saddam's removal, the cause for further investigations of his crimes (alleged, actual, rumored, etc) whithers. The whore press will run off to other sensations and spectacles. The rest of Saddam's record will languish in the purgatory of allegations and un-closed retribution for crimes.

The conspiracy theory impulse suggests that with the rest of Saddam's career evading legal examination under trial, now that the defendant is dead, any others having something to hide or at least seeking to minimize the risk that something embarrassing (or worse) comes out in further legal process have relief.

- - - -Recall bush the taller's invasion vendetta pressed to "get" Panama's Noriega, ensuring that he's put out of communications with the rest of the world. Noriega was one of bush the taller's agents and facilitators on the CIA payroll, but when he got out of hand, was getting the cold shoulder and posed a threat to reveal CIA crimes in/around the Central American killing fields, he had to be neutralized. Credit the surgical isolation of Noriega by incarceration rather than execution, to the characteristic finesse of bush the taller --in contrast to the clumsily wielded blunt instrument approach of his mouth-breathing spawn, bush the short.

So now the risk that Saddam might blurt out in court details about the support that the US bestowed when it "tilted" Iraq's way in the Iran-Iraq war are secure, or at worst, unsubstantiated by way of court testimony.

An interesting congruence follows from the matter which delivered the guilty verdict and sentence of hanging. Saddam was executed for having retaliated crudely, cruelly and collectively against men and boys of a town which bore the misfortune of being where an assassination threat against Saddam had been uncovered.

Of all the reasons that the runt has fumbled around with these grim past 5 years--since 9-11--for "getting" Saddam: WMD, regime change, bringing democracy to the nations, protecting American interests, "staying the course", et al., one rises from the ashes: "He tried to kill my daddy."

This is the only allegation or excuse for running the crimes of the invasion, and then the continuing occupation, that has a basis. From all fairly independent sources, there was a plan by Saddam to assassinate bush the taller.

By the above logic surrounding Saddam's charge, verdict and execution, the runt effectively avenged, unfolding an intolerable cesspool of manifold mass indiscriminate slaughter, crashing the US economy and social fabric and a panorama of war crimes in the process, for the attempt on his "daddy"--he took out vengeance, with maligned negligence as to anyone and anything in the way, in the cross fire, in order to even the score on that attempt. That attempt being the only criteria left standing for the invasion, occupation and manslaughter among all of the phony smoke rings that the runt has been blowing these 5 years.

By the logic that brought Saddam to terminal justice...well, if the shoe fits...

A great time for killing 30.Dec.2006 15:56

Santa Klaus

Yes, what a great time for killing! Kill someone for Christmas. George Bush has killed thousands this year and we need to admire him because he is the leader. Forget causes that actually help our fellow man. Governments are for killing ourselves and our neighbors. In the process of all this murder, tell the people that its alright to kill others if the government gives their ok. Just don't smoke any marijuana cause that's bad.