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The Problems I Have With The Black Lives Matter Movement

It is unsettling to me when I see black-on-black crime go by unnoticed in the Black Lives Matter movement.
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The Problems I Have With The Black Lives Matter Movement

08/17/2016 01:58 pm ET | Updated 1 day ago

Rocco Papa Writer and independent thinker.

Race riots erupted in the streets of Milwaukee, Wisconsin this weekend. 23-year-old Sylville Smith was shot and killed by a police officer. Smith had an illegally obtained pistol in his possession and refused to put it down when the officer ordered him to. Smith had a history of past arrests, according to Milwaukee Police Capt. Mark Stanmeyer.

Several people responded by rioting in the streets. A lot of destruction took place and several businesses were burned down. Some of the rioters were part of the Black Lives Matter movement, as evident by photographs of rioters wearing their shirts. The rioters were also chanting "black power" and beating up any white person in sight.

The rioters didn't take into account the fact that the officer who shot Smith was black. They also didn't seem to understand how this officer's actions could possibly be justified. Especially with Smith's arrest history, the fact that the gun was stolen, and his refusal to put it down. Instead, hatred and violence came out of many ill-informed people.

Don't get me wrong, I believe there are many well-intended people within the Black Lives Matter movement. I also believe police brutality is a real problem. However, this isn't something that only affects black people. White people are also victims of police brutality, as are Hispanics, Asians, and every other race. I will avoid statistics and comparisons as to which group experiences it more. I don't believe that will help anyone. The fact that it is even happening is enough.

Therefore, it is unsettling to me when I see black-on-black crime go by unnoticed in the Black Lives Matter movement. It seems like the only black lives that matter to them are the ones taken by police officers. This is something Peggy Hubbard knows all too much about. Hubbard posted a rant criticizing the movement. The rant went viral last year and Hubbard appeared on CNN to speak with Don Lemon.

Hubbard pointed out the death of 9-year-old Jamyla Bolden, who died from a stray bullet. Hubbard said that while Bolden's death was mostly ignored, violence erupted from protesters when a wanted criminal was shot dead by cops after he reportedly pointed a gun at them.

"You say black lives matter? Her life mattered. Her dreams mattered. Her future mattered. Her promises mattered," Hubbard said.

I do feel that many of those within the Black Lives Matter movement are going to unnecessary and dangerous lengths. These lengths are dividing and segregating people. This past June, a vigil was being held for the victims of the Orlando shooting at the University of Missouri. Suddenly, three Black Lives Matter members got on the stage. One of them was activist Tiffany Melecio. When Melecio got on stage, she criticized the audience for not coming to their racial demonstrations.

"I was really nervous to get up here because there's a lot of white people in the crowd," she said.

Members of Black Lives Matter Toronto halted the city's Pride parade in July. Co-founder Alexandra Williams said the group was holding Pride Toronto accountable for their "anti-blackness." Ironically, Black Lives Matter Toronto was invited to the parade as its Honoured Group. The parade was halted for up to 30 minutes, until the executive director of Pride Toronto, Mathieu Chantelois, signed a document agreeing to the group's demands.

One of those demands was that the parade can no longer have police floats. Black Lives Matter Vancouver made the same demand. I disagree with this wholeheartedly. This action would encourage the assumption that all police are evil. I don't believe that is the case. I think there are several police officers who are good people. I believe they should have the right to show their support for their city's LGBT community. I find an action like this hypocritical, as I'm sure Black Lives Matter members wouldn't want someone to make a generalization about black people.

I believe the only way to make real progress is for people to unite. I do believe there are some within the Black Lives Matter movement who condemn this divisive behavior. However, it's a shame that the ones with the loudest voices are the ones who are, whether intentional or not, causing more separation. It is not a contest of who's oppression is more important. It is not a question of who's life is more valuable. We're all just human beings and unity is the only way out of this mess.

Perhaps it was best said by Martin Luther King, Jr. himself. "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that."

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How the Gun Control Debate Ignores Black Lives 19.Aug.2016 23:17

Lois Beckett

 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2016/06/432600.shtml

Gun control advocates and politicians frequently cite the statistic that more than 30 Americans are murdered with guns every day. What's rarely mentioned is that roughly 15 of the 30 are black men.

Gun violence in America is largely a story of race and geography. In 2009, the gun homicide rate for white Americans was 2 per 100,000 about seven times as high as the rate for residents of Denmark, but a fraction of the rate for black Americans. In 2009, black Americans faced a gun homicide rate of nearly 15 per 100,000. That's higher than the gun homicide rate in Mexico.

The number of Americans murdered by guns peaked in 1993, then dropped sharply until 2000 for reasons that are still not fully understood. Since then, the number of Americans killed in gun homicides has remained remarkably consistent, about 11,000 to 12,000 a year.

Another constant: About half of those killed this way are black men, though they make up just 6 percent of the U.S. population. In 2001, when George W. Bush took office, 5,279 black men were murdered with firearms, according to estimates from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. In 2012, it was 5,947.

These deaths are concentrated in poor, segregated neighborhoods that have little political clout.

Most of these men have criminal records. But it's not drug deals or turf wars that drives most of the shootings.

Instead, the violence often starts with what seems to outsiders like trivial stuff "a fight over a girlfriend, a couple of words, a dispute over a dice game," said Vaughn Crandall, a senior strategist at the California Partnership for Safe Communities, which did the homicide analysis for Oakland.

Oh lord 20.Aug.2016 05:56

Garth

"White people are also victims of police brutality..."

You sure took a long time to get to your point that All Lives Matter.

Which means you don't understand one bit what Black Lives Matter means.

ergo, what exactly does "Black Lives Matter" mean then Garth? 20.Aug.2016 06:31

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Garth wrote:
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"don't understand one bit"
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Lol, yea no. The originators of the concept (let alone the 'movement') know what it means.

It's merely a broad based, generalized slogan for any ideologue (including Garth) to attach themselves to, via hashtag etc. where opportune.


Black Lives Matter: Obama Has Failed Victims Of Racism And Police Brutality
 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2016/07/432834.shtml

How Black Lives Matter Changed Liberal Politics
 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2016/07/432727.shtml

Black Lives Matter: The Growth Of A New Social Justice Movement
 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2016/07/432712.shtml

'Black Lives Matter': A Movement That Defies Definition
 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2016/07/432711.shtml

"Black Lives Matter" has become a mantra for people protesting police violence against African Americans.

It's a hash tag, a popular t-shirt slogan and a movement that is loosely organized - by design.


Dallas sniper killings at close of "Black Lives Matter" rally in Dallas, Texas also provide closure for Hillary Clinton's 'emailGate'
 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2016/07/432689.shtml

3 Male, 1 Female African Americans Pursued By Dallas Police For Sniper Killings 2016-07-07
 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2016/07/432688.shtml

Two Dallas Cops Shot In "Black Lives Matter" Demonstration 2016-07-07
 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2016/07/432687.shtml

Is this a re-post? 20.Aug.2016 16:39

Marlena Gangi

No use giving Rocco feedback if he did not post this. Better to go to Huffington link.

True Color 20.Aug.2016 19:11

Willy Nilly

""I think there are several police officers who are good people.""

That said it is now even more obvious this anti-BLM was written by a pro-police steward.

Country White Boys Kill One And Another. No Statistics Available 20.Aug.2016 20:58

blues

1,000 white boys shot each week in Eastern Kentucky.

(No statistics available.)

RE: "Is this a re-post?" 21.Aug.2016 00:38

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Actual statistics? 22.Aug.2016 11:08

Captain crunch

An average of 1200 people a year are killed by cop. 300 of them are black. That means you have a 25% chance of being killed by cop if you are black. However, blacks are 13% of US pop. which means they do have a 12% greater chance of being killed by cops that whites, or other ethnicities. Yes, Asian/hispanic/latino are in the mix also but for simplicity we'll stick to white/black.
However, blacks are far more likely to have interactions with police than whites so those stats suggest that police are less likely, on average, to pull the trigger when dealing with black people.

Some might say that a 12% greater chance of being shot by cop is still unacceptable but it's still hard to resolve those numbers with BLM rhetoric that makes it sound like some sort of genocide is going on and it only happens to "us".

There is also the reality that cops are the enforcers of state control and their ultimate purpose is to keep us all enslaved to the rich and their interests, without the threat of force and violence the police would have no power over us, so killing people is the ultimate coercion tactic.

That all being said, my problem with BLM is that I have the feeling that if the number of cop shootings of blacks dropped to zero but the white rate stayed the same the "movement" would stop caring about cops killing people. If the BLM movement wants respect then it needs to see cops for what they are and tailor their rhetoric to be more inclusive. Of course if they became that radicalized then they would be tagged as true terrorists and the cops and military would imprison or massacre them down to the last member.