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A Clear Message To 'I'm Gonna Kick Neo-Nazis Outta Portland' / RCA Activists: August 4th

Antifa = Violent Street Gang
Proud Boys = Violent Street Gang
Patriot Prayer = Violent Street Gang


You, 'Rose City Antifa' Do Not Speak For Me.

our Community DOES NOT support You.

I am absolutely (as always) in opposition all forms of Hatred, Statism and Authoritarianism.


but in NO WAY am I associated, even by implication, with your chosen tactic of Street Gang Violence.

As A Community Member I Do NOT Support Your Street Gang Violence IDEOLOGY.


both Antifa and WNs / Neo-Nazis, equally and intentionally provoked the disgraceful and threatening display of Violence in downtown Portland on June 30th.

and they are about to repeat the performance on August 4th.
You are delusional if you, Rose City Antifa (and other Antifa) believe somehow you are 'Striking A Blow For/Against Ideology'
by clashing violently with like-minded Street Thugs.


Rose City Antifa and its Street Thug tactics and behavior Do Not Represent or Speak For Me.

our Community DOES NOT support You, or these Premeditated Violent Actions.



See Also
01.Jul.2018 12:24
actions & protests | human & civil rights
As A Community Member I Do NOT Support Your Street Gang Violence IDEOLOGY.
 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2018/07/436331.shtml

nobody gives a shit 01.Aug.2018 15:03

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Stay home and do nothing, then.

Do nothing _ (underscore) is encouraging White Supremacy in PDX 01.Aug.2018 15:09

Unbelievable

What this post by "underscore" says is:

I will do nothing (read NOTHING but talk crap) about this issue
When white supremacists come to PDX I will make no effort to challenge them or their ilk
I will drink beer and sit on my ass and criticize those who are trying to stop these White Supremacists
I will also go online and use left wing media sites to marginalize the anti racism efforts and the efforts to rid Portland of fascist's
I will be BIG TIME encouraging other to do nothing about this rise of White Pride Hate in PDX
In fact I will call out Antifa and those who stand w/ Antifa fighting hate speech and standing up to our town becoming a pro White Supremacist community
I will project negative nuances for those working hard to stop Nazi / White Pride groups

Thanks underscore for supporting the Hate Groups as they get their firm footing here inside Portland
And it's noted you are doing the Pride Groups dirty work by being their mouthpiece to chastise Antifa

Thanks for sitting on your ass and laughing about this

One Day, you will recognize your Enemy 01.Aug.2018 15:28

The Red 'X' Society

...and one of two things will happen.

You will put them in a ditch, or? ...they will put you in a ditch.

The State is Your Enemy. The Press is Your Enemy. The Judicial System is Your Enemy. People telling You What You Have to Do ...Are Your Enemy.

Just a suggestion, pick bigger battles.

I'm not in Underscores "community" 01.Aug.2018 15:31

HELL NO

HEY Underscore ---> "you don't speak for me"

wow it looks like Jimmies Were Rustled 01.Aug.2018 16:21

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QUOTE:
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"I'm not in Underscores "community""
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Probably not after your head is stove in by PB. Or the cops.


QUOTE:
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"I will do nothing (read NOTHING but talk crap) about this issue"
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You're **ALREADY** doing *nothing*. Beating the living shit out of each other in the street for benefit of iPhone LiveStreams,
is the Definition of NOTHING.'

As far as "talking":
NOBODY gives a ***KING S*** about your Rose City Antifa "ideology".
White Boy ****tards that do NOTHING except sit on their ass in coffee shops, post on their Infoshop social media, and otherwise
TALK "we're so smart" / "we take no ****".
not sure if (post-June 30th) anything new will have registered with RCA about their 'strategy' of


QUOTE:
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"encouraging White Supremacy in PDX"
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Rose City Antifa certainly encourages the Turnout of WNs / PBs et cetera,
by continually Posing and Posturing themselves. Violently.

Do you have any idea what the Right wing social media thinks of / how they perceive these Street Face-Offs?

It's like a sporting event for them. You will NEVER EVER 'change their ideology' or, "Teach Them A Lesson".

Furthermore, the only ultimate Physical Winners in these Lowbrow Circus Events are the Portland Police Bureau (and / or U.S. government troops if and when they are ever called in for 'riot control').

As to what the City of Portland thinks they are "accomplishing" by permitting the White Trash for free speech? .... No idea. Perhaps RCA should take that up with their glorious City of Portland namesake.




QUOTE:
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"When white supremacists come to PDX I will make no effort to challenge them or their ilk"
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Whose "ilk" ? You need a dictionary education.

Look at what your OWN ****ING STUPID ASS announcement says

[QUOTE]: "fantasies of purges and cleansing the streets of those they seem undesirable"

^ Rose City Antifa in a 'nut'shell. Look in a mirror.

Cleansing the streets of WN trash. RCA's own self-righteously appointed job / 'employment'.



QUOTE:
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"I will drink beer and sit on my ass and criticize those who are trying to stop these White Supremacists"
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["beer"] Did you just ^assume my beverage?



QUOTE:
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"I will also go online and use left wing media sites to marginalize the anti racism efforts and the efforts to rid Portland of fascist's"
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"marginalize" ?

The "glorious struggle" of RCA who "struggle for the community"? A bunch of 20s-to-30s aged overprivileged middle-upper class White Boys? Lol.

Rose City Antifa DOES THAT TO THEMSELVES, COURTESY OF THEIR OWN STUPID IDIOT SELVES.

Going in to the streets to Duke It Out with like-minded Violent Street Gangs? Self-marginalization. Which DOES NOT represent me, my ideology, or my community.


QUOTE:
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"I will be BIG TIME encouraging other to do nothing about this rise of White Pride Hate in PDX"
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I'm not the one FASCISTICALLY SUGGESTING that if you are Out Of Lock Step with the so-called self-proclaimed AntiRacists,
you will be Persona Nongrata.

It is *YOU* who are attempting to marginalize those who disagree with your FASCISTIC and Violent restriction of the freedom of speech of others.

All I have done is made a clear statement of what my position is regarding RCA's Street Gang Violence which they insist on continuing to perpetrate.


Nobody has to "agree with me". <shrug> All are free to think / behave as they wish. But my position on deliberately provocative Street Gang Violence has been made clear.


QUOTE:
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"In fact I will call out Antifa and those who stand w/ Antifa fighting hate speech and standing up to our town becoming a pro White Supremacist community"
"project negative nuances"
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See above: Yes I'm calling out Rose City Antifa for their Street Gang Violence behavior and deliberate provocations.

RE: "our town becoming a pro White Supremacist community"
You need to grow up. Or, see a psychiatrist / get some medication for your Delusion.
This town is the same as it always has been.


"project negative nuances", Lol.
How was that knockout punch on June 30th? Anyone at RCA learn from that one?

What comes around goes around.


I posted this to Indymedia recently. Do you even know who this is?
 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2017/11/435280.shtml


Stupid uneducated ****. You know NOTHING.

jah bless 01.Aug.2018 16:29

.

thank god youre here to speak for the free speech rights of white nationalists. Im sure minorities all over portland are thankful for your tireless efforts.

confronting racists isnt fascism, dummy. especially when they are gathering in numbers in the middle of your city. if they want a fight, theyll get it.

but dont worry. nobody will miss your absence. you will still be shitposting all over indymedia with your three page long posts filled with quotes and links to other articles like the pedantic, OCD mess we know you are.

"your three page long posts filled with quotes and links" 01.Aug.2018 16:45

_

Yeah,

"quotes and links" to THINGS I ACTUALLY WROTE and/or posted to Indymedia itself?


Which you ( with your Moronic social-media 140-character attention span ) apparently can't be bothered or don't have a spare 18 seconds to actually read and comprehend?



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QUOTE: "confronting racists isnt fascism"
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No, dummy. There are other ways to [Your Words] "confront racism" besides Street Gang Violence. White Trash aren't worth acknowledging in the first place, let alone taking direct steps to engage in Street Gang Violence with them.


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QUOTE: "especially when they are gathering in numbers in the middle of your city"
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Take it up ( See advice below ) with the City of Portland. So that they never legally permit such intrusions by White Trash in the future.

otherwise and until then enjoy getting your head bashed in by ____ , cops, whoever.


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QUOTE: "jah bless free speech rights of white nationalists"
---

Perhaps you should take that up at the next City of Portland meeting? Talk to the Mayor?

Get them to prohibit your hated WNs from conducting a Circus Display in downtown Portland.

If you "jah bless" want to go down there on August 4th and get your head kicked in (or worse) by either the PBs-WNs or the Portland Police Bureau, be my guest. According to Tough Guy "jah bless" if they want a fight, theyll get it. Nobody will miss your absence.

But don't act like / put on airs, that Premeditated Violent Behavior as a Street Gang confrontation is somehow 'noble' or 'righteous'. Because it's not.

"Im sure minorities all over portland are thankful for your tireless efforts." 01.Aug.2018 16:54

_

Irony fo sho.

All those "minorities" who were "thankful" to the 20-to-30s White Boys in Rose City Antifa, and their "tireless efforts" on June 30th 2018.

Yeah, remember all that those "minorities" published in the local newspapers and on local social media the following week, thanking RCA for starting a riot downtown?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

Thanks, Rose City Antifa yer doing a bang up job!

Another irony (which btw has gone unacknowledged since June 30th) 01.Aug.2018 17:00

_

isn't it ironic that no posts were made (as they typically are, in aftermath of a major announced action) here to Portland Indymedia, where the June 30th event was announced as a center column feature, concerning the J30 event itself?

Wonder why (?...) RCA didn't feel the need to post about J30, after it happened.

Maybe the J30 post-event publicity was so excellent and productive elsewhere on other media that it just wouldn't have mattered to post anything here, about the event.

WN spokesperson being taken up by _ 01.Aug.2018 18:10

--) | (--

Boys n girls ...underscore has posted thousands of words on this website that are all contrary to Antifa's principles

The obvious result of underscores tirades on this site is t(he)y support White Nationalist

You either like WN or you openly and obviously don't like them

Antifa and most of us reading on Indymedia "Do not like WN fascist's"

Then there is underscore with his twisted self serving (WN serving) rants on how bad the Antifa folks are ***king things up
And the posting of by _ with comments like the following:
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"project negative nuances", Lol.
How was that knockout punch on June 30th? Anyone at RCA learn from that one?
+++

This is the kind of person that openly sneers at anti fascist folks and (?) probably cheers for the WN if anything falls to their favor

Underscore wants to dis-empower Antifa and like minded anti-racists activists and allow the Joey Gibson free reign, free speech and the use of our parks for their hate speech and violence

"wants to dis-empower Antifa and like minded anti-racists" 01.Aug.2018 18:54

_

No, ^they are "dis-empowering" themselves by engaging in Street Gang Violence confrontations with worthless, inconsequential WN/PB trash.


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QUOTE: "WN spokesperson"
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Are you implying that I speak for someone / some other entity besides myself alone?

everything written in the initial post, are my own opinions and thoughts. I speak for no one but myself.

Why would you impute to me, or imply that I was a "spokesperson"? ***K the WNs and the PBs. Hope they get their skulls caved in (probably by cops as RCA appears incapable of doing so).


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QUOTE: "The obvious result of underscores tirades on this site is t(he)y support White Nationalist"
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"obvious" ? How so?

Why are you implying something that does not exist? You didn't read or comprehend what I wrote, and further you impute characteristics to me which are nonexistent.

Anyway I'm not going to repeat what's already been ^^^^posted, go back and read the initial post at top of this page.


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QUOTE: "allow the Joey Gibson free reign, free speech and the use of our parks for their hate speech and violence "
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City of Portland is responsible for providing legal permits for White Trash.

Take it up with the Rose City.

(This was already covered, suggested ^^^ above.)


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QUOTE: "twisted self serving (WN serving) rants on how bad the Antifa folks are ***king things up"
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I represent no organization. And I most certainly and absolutely do NOT represent any WN point of view or ideological tenet.

But as ^^^ already stated/explained:

Rose City Antifa, and Antifa more broadly nationwide, are ***KING THEMSELVES UP. Due to their own Street Gang Violence choice of behaviors.



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QUOTE: "has posted thousands of words on this website that are all contrary to Antifa's principles"
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"all contrary to Antifa", Hm so it is VERBOTEN to disagree with Antifa's methods, ideology or "principles" [<-- Your Word and I can hardly even use it loosely in regard to Antifa]?

No one can voice a contrary or alternative 'principle' to what Antifa puts forth, because no one else is worthy to do so?

Antifa is not permitted to be criticized or evaluated for veracity, in any way? Beyond criticism, is Antifa?

Your elitism is showing.


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QUOTE: "You either like WN or you openly and obviously don't like them"
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Black-and-white? On-and-off? Either-like-or-don't?

I most certainly and openly DO NOT "like" WNs; they actually are on the far end of EXTREME DISLIKE, for me personally.

WNs, and PB = Scum.


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QUOTE: "Antifa and most of us reading on Indymedia "Do not like WN fascist's[sic]"
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We share a trait. How about that.


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QUOTE: "This is the kind of person that openly sneers at anti fascist folks"
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I sneer at the past decade of "antifascist" actions, particularly those that [didn't?] occur in the Obama administration era.

Anyway J30 was proof enough, after RCA's national exposure, that Antifa has completely Jumped The Shark. No "sneering" needed, least of all from little old me. "portland antifa knockout" was a top Google search autocomplete suggestion in the 2 weeks following J30.

Rose City Antifa did that to themselves, all by themselves. No assistance required.


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QUOTE: "(?) probably cheers for the WN if anything falls to their favor"
---

I absolutely DO NOT "cheer for" WN in any scenario. They are Scum. Nothing is "in their favor" apart from having the Oppressor Culture's skin color; the rest is self-inflicted and -promoted idiocy. Laughably bad and pathetic posturing about racial purity, "cleansing" and all sorts of other 19th- and 20th-century era paleface ideological and eugenic delusions of grandeur. They are to be pitied and ignored, as history will always do in regard to them overall.

Yawn 01.Aug.2018 19:10

Garth

YAWWWWWNNNN...I'd stay home and drink beer if I was you too. Gotta get refreshed after all those hours you spend posting here. Who knows, maybe one day you'll take a step and be something more productive.

For those who oppose white supremacy 01.Aug.2018 19:17

Garth

If you oppose white supremacy, you will have opportunity to show so on Saturday at varying levels of comfort. If you don't want to be with Antifa, there will be other spaces for people to protest and join organizations that are fighting white supremacy, with organizers (Jobs with Justice and the Portland Immigrant Rights Coalition among many) creating spaces that will be as safe as possible for people in them. For more information, check out:

 https://www.facebook.com/events/793756637681487/

See you on Saturday.

[Garth] "maybe one day you'll take a step and be something more productive" 01.Aug.2018 23:57

That's Rich

coming from the site Troll. What a joke. Look in a mirror. Get off of the government dole.


Concerning the broader issue here (beyond tactics)

As Red 'X' already had mentioned, ^^ above : "Just a suggestion, pick bigger battles."

Oh and thanks loads for the Facebook link (as though we're not already aware of the range of non-Antifa activities :

 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2018/07/436389.shtml
 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2018/06/436244.shtml

another FB story here 02.Aug.2018 00:04

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"varying levels of comfort" / "spaces that will be as safe as possible" 02.Aug.2018 00:29

_

Didn't want to 'go here' (i.e. Conveyance Of The Broader Message) on this topic, but since the troll brought it up here goes :

"creating spaces that will be as safe as possible" is fine if you're an activist or protest participant; but what about the manner in which this stuff actually appears to public at large, and is transmitted via corporate-owned legacy / social mass media? Isn't the objective to actually convey a message, raise awareness and-or promote reasonable discussion.... Nope, Not with Street Gang Violence presiding.

Ever since Milo in Berkeley it is Street Brawls Inc. that the public is presented with. No broader message about 'racism' is recognized, discussed or provided with 'raised awareness'. As ^^ previously noted, and especially while a Republican U.S. government is seated, the American right wing only views these charades as a trivial sporting event. (the broad left, from "moderate" to "radical" included seems ?? to view these Violent Circuses as part of their own righteously-perceived Trump Derangement Syndrome) Furthermore the only "issue" that is "deeply" discussed or considered out of it all is that of the 1st amendment (along with the attendant recriminations, physical injuries et cetera).


Anyway ( as mentioned ^above *I Didn't Want To Go Here*, never mind me, you're all free to "protest" in whatever manner chosen and... ) this is re-hash :

 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2017/02/434307.shtml
 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2017/02/434306.shtml
 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2017/06/434807.shtml

Expected 02.Aug.2018 07:31

Garth

Huh, -, you as usual display a great knowledge of how to post things on Portland Indymedia, but nothing about organizing, which does take place at these events. Of course, you would, again, actually have to do something more productive than sit at a keyboard all day.

So again, for those who actually care about fighting white supremacy and fascism, organizers of the event will be creating safe spaces. Come on down. Get involved, not only in this mobilization, but also with a group involved in this fight. You'll have a lot more to show for your efforts than typing away on this website all day.

"nothing about organizing, which does take place at these events" 02.Aug.2018 07:46

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And precisely what is it that 'Garth' does in the community of Portland, Oregon?


Identify yourself: your employment and-or your "activism" and organizing here in our community.

yeah you've been called out before... not expecting an answer

Clarification 02.Aug.2018 08:51

Troll Minitor

FYI
Underscore is Indymedias site troll

" is Indymedias site troll " 02.Aug.2018 08:59

_

Not when I've posted a substantial part of actual content and discussion to this site (or, is nothing on this site bandwidth-worthy?)

and if ^ "Troll Minitor[sic]" has anything to offer about the Topic at hand go ahead and do it, now. Otherwise stfu
hit-and-run ad hominem is textbook Characteristic online troll behavior.

further to [Garth] "creating safe spaces" 02.Aug.2018 09:04

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[ Remember, didn't want to go ^^ here  http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2018/08/436533.shtml#453439 .... ]

There is *no* "safety" in a Violent Street Brawl.

Particularly in downtown Portland, after the Police Bureau starts closing down and blocking off intersections, side streets, alleys.


Attend (no matter your political-ideological orientation) the August 4th demonstrations downtown at your own physical risk. Kudos for bravery, to you, if you go ahead and do so.

Clear Message is muddled 02.Aug.2018 09:26

Changing Shirts

That's a real clear message underscore

Now you saying: kudos and bravery to those standing up to WN event ?

#backpedal

RE: "kudos for bravery" 02.Aug.2018 09:30

_

Yeah not "backpedaling" here's the 'unfiltered' version:

If you're STUPID ENOUGH to go to downtown Portland on the 4th of August, kudos.


Groupthink [look ^^ at the ad-hominem-downvote-nanny responses here] 03.Aug.2018 03:22

_

Groupthink is a phenomenon when a group of people get together and start to think collectively with one mind. The group is more concerned with maintaining unity than with objectively evaluating their situation, alternatives and options.


What is Groupthink?

Groupthink, a term coined by social psychologist Irving Janis (1972), occurs when a group makes faulty decisions because group pressures lead to a deterioration of "mental efficiency, reality testing, and moral judgment" (p. 9). Groups affected by groupthink ignore alternatives and tend to take irrational actions that dehumanize other groups. A group is especially vulnerable to groupthink when its members are similar in background, when the group is insulated from outside opinions, and when there are no clear rules for decision making.

Underscores Creepy Comments 03.Aug.2018 10:15

_______

there

is

nothing

"clear"

in this

article or the rants that follow.

The

author (underscore)

contradicts his own words

and

advocates

harm to

anti racists

hoping they get punched.

I

doubt

underscore is

also posting his rants

regarding

ANTI WHITE PRIDE / Nazi WORDS

on

WN Joey Gibson...

web sites


Just trolling Indymedia!

and yelling at Antifa!

but not at the fascists!


hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm???

^ 03.Aug.2018 10:41

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thereisnothing"clear"in thisarticle or the rants that follow.Theauthor (underscore)contradicts his own wordsandadvocatesharm toanti racistshoping they get punched.Idoubtunderscore isalso posting his rantsregardingANTI WHITE PRIDE / Nazi WORDSonWN Joey Gibson...web sitesJust trolling Indymedia!and yelling at Antifa!but not at the fascists!hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm???
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It's ******* GODDAMNED CLEAR AS THE COCAINE ON YOUR MOTHER'S MOUTH.



GO TO DOWNTOWN PORTLAND OF YOUR OWN VOLITION ON SATURDAY AUGUST 4TH WHATEVER YOUR RACE, GENDER, OR POLITICAL PERSUASION:
TAKE YOUR OWN PHYSICAL SAFETY IN TO YOUR OWN HANDS. YOU HAVE A GREAT CHANCE THEREBY OF INCURRING PHYSICAL HARM.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FUCK 'Proud Boys' <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

AND, **** THE Rose City Antifa ***KTARDS WHO USE INDYMEDIA TO 'organize' FOR THIS Street Gang Violence WHILE CLAIMING TO "represent" THE COMMUNITY.

Capiche?

Garth, Clyde & _ 04.Aug.2018 15:56

rAT

Fuckin' professional trolls and amateur intellectuals. LOL!!

"professional trolls and amateur intellectuals" LOOK IN A MIRROR, rAT. 04.Aug.2018 16:06

_

rAT, I really don't give a flying **** if you go jump off of the St. Johns Bridge. Ok? I wish you <-----would but that's going to be your decision. You're a blithering pusladen herpes sore on the face of this site.


"professional troll" Not me. I sure don't get ["professional"]paid to post here.

You, rAT? ["professional"]probably not (if you ask me).

Garth, Clyde? Yeah I would lean toward, probably are.


"amateur intellectual"
when you look the word Amateur Intellectual up in a dictionary, you find rAT's picture as a defining example :

keep it up rAT with the irrational droolings, it's great
rAT in its natural habitat
rAT in its natural habitat